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ndiddy 1 minutes ago [-]
Great article! I remember reading about the Toledo family's computer systems ( http://www.biyubi.com/ ) years ago, but never saw any specifics so they were always shrouded in mystery to me. It's interesting reading about how you wrote the OS and seeing it run in an emulator. It's really impressive that you were able to write such a complex system in machine code.
"The AMD 29000 improved the design by allowing the windows to be of variable size, which helps utilization in the common case where fewer than eight registers are needed for a call. It also separated the registers into a global set of 64, and an additional 128 for the windows."
Amazing stuff. (Both the 29K and the article).
taolson 3 hours ago [-]
Wow, blast from the past! I was on the architecture / micro-architecture team for the 29K and 29050, and your story of writing and debugging the emulator brought up similar memories of working on the performance simulator for these chips.
Very impressive work -- congratulations!
rbanffy 2 hours ago [-]
Somewhere in my collection I have an AMD 29K-based tablet that was used in São Paulo's stock exchange trading floor. It had a huge IR LED array that, I assume, was used to transmit orders to receivers installed near the monitors. I managed to boot it from ROM, but it seemed the machine was waiting for the transmitter to send it its boot image.
Would have been an interesting project. Considering the size of the array, I'd be able to control all TVs from the building one block down.
sage981 3 hours ago [-]
Writing a windowing OS straight in machine code for the Am29000 is wild. The emulator debugging story is the part I would love expanded.
rob74 3 hours ago [-]
> The AMD Am29000 processor came out in 1987, also announced as the world's fastest processor (do you see a meme here?) and it could process one instruction every cycle, so indeed it was fast.
The AMD 29k - the fastest CPU you never heard of? No, seriously, I am quite interested in computer hardware, and Computer Architecture by Patterson/Hennessy was required reading during my studies, but I can't say I ever heard of this CPU architecture, which is "based on the seminal Berkeley RISC" (according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Am29000). And it seems to have been quite widely used, but not in an actual computer (except for this one)...
AnotherGoodName 3 hours ago [-]
You might have heard of the x86 cpu the AMD K5 that competed against the Pentium?
Well that was basically an am29000 but with an x86 instruction decoder front end. The architecture was that good it was competitive 10years later.
Think of the am29000 as an incredibly influential research project that flowed into all of AMDs future CPUs in some way or another.
taolson 1 hours ago [-]
> Well that was basically an am29000 but with an x86 instruction decoder front end.
The K5 was based upon a 29K-family design, but it was actually an un-released superscalar project code-named "Jaguar", rather than just a 29K with an x86 decoder.
rob74 1 hours ago [-]
Wow, I wasn't aware of that either! I didn't have an AMD K5 PC, but (IIRC) a K6-III - did that still have the same underlying architecture?
rbanffy 2 hours ago [-]
> Well that was basically an am29000 but with an x86 instruction decoder front end.
Sad. A 29K saddled with an ugly and kludgy ISA.
taolson 2 hours ago [-]
Yep, it wound up as the main CPU in a bunch of laser-printers, as well as Apple's 8*24GC QuickDraw accelerator card for the Macintosh, and as part of the flight-control computer on Boeing 777s, among many other embedded system designs.
kjs3 1 hours ago [-]
It's the 'other' major processor that shipped with register windows along with SPARC and i960. Very popular in the embedded world.
dboreham 1 hours ago [-]
This is because history gets written by the victors.
gforce_de 6 days ago [-]
Thanks Oscar - as always, a very very nice writing style - a good read!
nanochess 6 days ago [-]
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It is my longest article so far and it took a lot of effort. Thank you!
cyberge99 5 hours ago [-]
F 15 Strike Eagle, Infiltrator and 688 Attack Sub were some of my first games.
And then came Leisure Suit Larry and the tweenage years.
"The AMD 29000 improved the design by allowing the windows to be of variable size, which helps utilization in the common case where fewer than eight registers are needed for a call. It also separated the registers into a global set of 64, and an additional 128 for the windows."
Amazing stuff. (Both the 29K and the article).
Very impressive work -- congratulations!
Would have been an interesting project. Considering the size of the array, I'd be able to control all TVs from the building one block down.
The AMD 29k - the fastest CPU you never heard of? No, seriously, I am quite interested in computer hardware, and Computer Architecture by Patterson/Hennessy was required reading during my studies, but I can't say I ever heard of this CPU architecture, which is "based on the seminal Berkeley RISC" (according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Am29000). And it seems to have been quite widely used, but not in an actual computer (except for this one)...
Well that was basically an am29000 but with an x86 instruction decoder front end. The architecture was that good it was competitive 10years later.
Think of the am29000 as an incredibly influential research project that flowed into all of AMDs future CPUs in some way or another.
The K5 was based upon a 29K-family design, but it was actually an un-released superscalar project code-named "Jaguar", rather than just a 29K with an x86 decoder.
Sad. A 29K saddled with an ugly and kludgy ISA.
And then came Leisure Suit Larry and the tweenage years.